Idaho | Southwest Idaho / Boise County
Mores Creek
Big Gulch to Robie Creek
Route planning details, access notes, and local verification guidance.
Route location
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Need to know
Why this call
Safety
Route safety
Advanced routeThis route has hazards that can create serious consequences if missed or misjudged. Paddle only with appropriate skill, equipment, and current local information.
Safety details
American Whitewater describes mostly roadside read-and-run Class II-III water but warns about strainers, bridge cables, rope lines, and a spring-only window. Scout every man-made obstruction from legal roadside pullouts and portage on public land only.
- Use 600 cfs as the conservative low-flow floor and about 1,000 cfs as the local optimum reference. The gauge is on Mores Creek, but current wood, bridge clearance, private-bank constraints, and rapidly changing spring runoff override any numeric cue.
- Idaho Fish and Game identifies Highway 21 pullouts rather than a developed boat ramp; confirm the exact Big Gulch start, Robie Creek exit, parking, and carry before publishing or launching.
Conditions
Gauge history and hourly forecast
Use the gauge context and hourly forecast to verify local conditions before launching.
Gauge detail
Gauge history & hourly forecastDetailed view
Gauge note
Proxy gauge: Mores Creek above Robie Creek near Arrowrock Dam, ID. Regional signal only; verify local water.
Gauge context
This route uses Mores Creek above Robie Creek near Arrowrock Dam, ID as a proxy gauge. It is a regional signal, not a measurement of this reach. Verify local water and hazards before launching.
Gauge
Recent trend
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Gauge source
--Checking timestampMN DNR provides the current paddling level here, but not chart-ready recent samples.
Weather
Hourly forecast
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Route overview
Quick facts and what's next
Distance, difficulty, shuttle basics, and the near-term outlook before you commit to the drive.
Quick facts
Plan ahead
Upcoming outlook
These are early planning reads. Re-check live conditions before you commit to the drive.
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Plan
Plan your trip
Launch points, shuttle details, distance, and access notes.
Route logistics
Access and shuttle
A roughly 13-15.7-mile spring Class II-III roadside run on Mores Creek east of Boise.
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Put-in
Big Gulch / Highway 21 roadside startUse only the named public launch or landing; a nearby bank, bridge shoulder, fishing easement, or private campground is not substitute access.
Take-out
Robie Creek / Mores Creek Park exitConfirm current closures, fire restrictions, seasonal gates, parking capacity, fees, launch condition, and Idaho invasive-species requirements before travel.
Plan this segment
Access caveats and watch for
Access caveats
- Use only the named public launch or landing; a nearby bank, bridge shoulder, fishing easement, or private campground is not substitute access.
- Confirm current closures, fire restrictions, seasonal gates, parking capacity, fees, launch condition, and Idaho invasive-species requirements before travel.
- Private banks are common. Do not land, scout, portage, or camp outside a signed public site or manager-designated corridor.
Watch for
- bridge cables and low-clearance crossings
- river-wide strainers
- illegal rope lines and private frontage
- spring runoff rise
- uncertain Big Gulch and Robie Creek landing points
Route gallery
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Photos help show what the access looks like and what the route actually feels like on the water.

Score & sources
Data and sources
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Why this scoreToday's evidence strength is checking
Evidence strength mostly comes down to three things: how direct the active gauge is, how clear the range is, and how fresh the data is.
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Data behind the scoreGauge, thresholds, and timing
These are the live readings and threshold notes behind today's score.
| Gauge site | Mores Creek above Robie Creek near Arrowrock Dam, ID |
| Discharge | Checking |
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| 24h trend | Checking |
| 24h change | Checking |
| Current band | Checking |
| Rain last 24h | Checking |
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| Ideal range | Needs paddler reports |
| Known low-water floor | 600 cfs |
| High threshold | Not calibrated yet |
| Evidence strength behind the range | Official and local sources |
| Gauge observed | Checking |
| Paddle Today updated | Checking |
| Main source behind this score | American Whitewater/WKCC Mores Creek guidance: 600 cfs low-flow floor and about 1,000 cfs optimum |
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NotesWhat to know before you go
These notes cover the access details, route quirks, and source caveats most likely to matter once you get there.
- Official route corridorBig Gulch to Robie Creek; About 13-15.7 river miles
American Whitewater Mores Creek Big Gulch-to-Robie reach record identifies the endpoint chain, river miles, or managed float corridor.
- Public access controlBig Gulch / Highway 21 roadside start to Robie Creek / Mores Creek Park exit
Coordinates represent named public ramps, bank launches, park landings, or an explicitly described staging point.
- Direct live gaugeUSGS 13200000 - Mores Creek above Robie Creek near Arrowrock Dam, ID
Gauge is on the named waterbody and supplies context only.
- Threshold postureNumeric cue retained for planning
The route remains planning-only; no live go/no-go score is asserted.
- Safety and land managementCurrent manager notices override this record
American Whitewater describes mostly roadside read-and-run Class II-III water but warns about strainers, bridge cables, rope lines, and a spring-only window. Scout every man-made obstruction from legal roadside pullouts and portage on public land only. Use 600 cfs as the conservative low-flow floor and about 1,000 cfs as the local optimum reference. The gauge is on Mores Creek, but current wood, bridge clearance, private-bank constraints, and rapidly changing spring runoff override any numeric cue. Idaho Fish and Game identifies Highway 21 pullouts rather than a developed boat ramp; confirm the exact Big Gulch start, Robie Creek exit, parking, and carry before publishing or launching.
- Camping classificationnearby_basecamp
No on-route overnight is assumed. Mores Creek Park and other Lucky Peak facilities provide nearby basecamp context, but this is a spring day run; verify day-use and camping rules separately.
- Image decisionBoise River basin context photograph; not a Mores Creek endpoint image
Approved route-area or same-river context; it does not depict every endpoint or current conditions.
- Overlap decisionRetained as a distinct access-to-access itinerary
Adjacent cards use different public endpoints and provide a different trip length, hazard set, skill tier, or operating boundary.
Verify it yourselfCheck the source links
Use these links to double-check the gauge, route details, and access notes before you head out.
- American Whitewater Mores Creek Big Gulch-to-Robie reach record
- Official access/map control
- USGS 13200000 monitoring location
- USGS 13200000 current conditions
- Additional threshold support
- WKCC Mores Creek flow description
- Idaho Fish and Game Mores Creek access context
- USACE Mores Creek Park and Lucky Peak access context
- USGS Mores Creek gauge
- American Whitewater Mores Creek reach
- Boise River basin context photograph; not a Mores Creek endpoint image
- Idaho boating and invasive-species requirements
Paddler reports
Recent notes from paddlers
A few quick notes from people who were on this route recently.
Reports
Paddler reports
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More level reports needed
Only a low-water floor is known.
We can tell when this route is likely too low, but we do not yet have enough reports to define a best range. If you paddled it recently, send a condition report with how the level felt.
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Quick answers
Mores Creek paddling FAQ
What water level is good for paddling Mores Creek?
Paddle Today watches Mores Creek above Robie Creek near Arrowrock Dam, ID and uses 600 cfs as the conservative low-water floor for this route. The ideal range still needs more paddler reports.
Where does this Mores Creek route start and end?
This route starts at Big Gulch / Highway 21 roadside start and ends at Robie Creek / Mores Creek Park exit, about About 13-15.7 river miles on the water.
Is this Mores Creek route good for beginners?
This is listed as a hard route. Treat the live score as a planning aid, then confirm conditions, hazards, access, and group skill before launching.
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